Something that I noticed after the 2020 pandemic was that my face changed dramatically, leaving me feeling insecure after years of stress and upheaval. Even though I knew better, I was struggling with attaching my sense of self to my outward appearance. Fortunately, I was able to have a conversation with Dina Scippa, a life coach and founder of Enough Labs, who specializes in helping women navigate crises of confidence and reconnect with their true selves.
We explore what confidence truly means, how life circumstances can deeply affect our self-esteem, and practical steps you can take to regain self-trust and authenticity. Plus, Dina offers invaluable tips on dealing with low moments and how to build a sustainable foundation of self-confidence. Tune in for an enlightening discussion that promises to uplift and empower.
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Monica Packer: In 2022. Something really weird happened to me. I noticed. I had a different face. Like everyone else in the world. The pandemic brought on a few years of very intense stress for. Our family. For us that included a rushed move out of our home. Home in California. To living in my parents’ basement while. Homeschooling our kids who are really struggling. And still trying to work. And renovate a house that was completely depleting.
Our bank accounts. It’s. But once that was all beginning to resolve. We finally moved into our home. Our kids were back in school and. I could finally come up for air. It was like one day. I looked in the mirror and saw a completely new face. One that I nicknamed my post pandemic face. Because it was sacking increasing in ways that hadn’t before. As if. The stress of the last few years had left their mark on. MI. While this was surprising.
What. What surprised me the most was how suddenly, and, and during. insecure. I felt. And this after. Uh, years of preaching. The importance of, and how to gain. A strong sense of self outside of outcomes, including appearance. It’s. I felt insecure, but I also felt. Shame over that insecurity. After all I knew. I knew better.
We all face. The circumstances in our lives that create a crisis of confidence. Whether you’re in a postpartum season or in a depression. Or. You’re aging or facing divorce. There are times. Of insecurity. That push us to take a real hard look at. Who we really are and how to come back home to. That sense of self. Today, my guest Dina. Skip it we’ll help.
You know, how to better move through a crisis of confidence. Once and in ways that rise above the common platitudes of. Love yourself or even fake it till you make it. In our interview, you’ll learn what confidence really. He is how and why times of insecurity arise. And what to do when, not if that’s the case for you. Including both. Deep and practical ways to come back home to yourself. Dina, skip it is a gender equality specialist. Turned certified life coach and founder of enough labs. She supports women and girls and coaching on the intersections of. Leadership and confidence. Is this seasoned trainer and facilitator. And as invited to speak regularly on radical self acceptance. Women’s empowerment and being enough.
She hosts it internationally. Charted podcast embracing enough, which showcases the stories of women. And girls on their journey to feeling confident. She believes that. Once women accept that unwavering connection to the fact that they can’t do what they want. Want to do. I feel how they want to feel and be who they want to be in this world. World it is then when she’s unstoppable. Bubble. That interview is coming up after a quick break. For our sponsors.
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Dina, Scippa, welcome to About Progress.
Dina Scippa: So excited to be here.
Monica Packer: We are going to be talking about something that a lot of women struggle with in my community. And I would actually put myself among them. I had a confusingly insecure year. Like I would say a year and a half ago, like a whole year. I just. Did not feel like myself and very in more of a place of insecurity and comparison. That kind of shook me because I thought I had done so much work in this regard, and I’m still very interested in working on it and learning more from you. So let’s talk about lack of confidence and why it is so common among us as women. What’s been your experience?
Dina Scippa: I mean, exactly what you just shared. I cannot tell you. I don’t even think there’s a day that goes by that I don’t speak to a woman who talks to me about the crisis of confidence that she’s going through right now. And what I find is like you said, it’s pretty circumstantial. Some of us will think that, wow, I feel like I, Should have mastered this before look at my own brag book.
I should be past this. Why is this happening? I often tell people, I don’t think your confidence is like this fixed journey. You have to be able to give yourself grace and be able to, Move through it in the moments that are going to make you feel like a complete rock star and others that just, you might be on a little shakier ground.
I think
Monica Packer: Yeah. times what I find in my conversations with women and I also like you would put myself in the same category is that it’s just. Such a journey and it could be influenced by so many factors. Um, externally job relationships, friendships, family dynamics, different transitions in life. But I think also there’s a real shift that happens.
Dina Scippa: I think at different stages of our life, just internally. And where we might be seeing ourselves differently or questioning certain things that we thought we knew to always be true. And so I just, I oftentimes will tell women, don’t expect yourself to reach a certain point. And then it’s like, can check that off the list.
I mean, and, and I, I, it’s funny, I was just talking to, uh, some folks about this this week is that you have to be willing to reach. And move through those low moments in order to take the lesson that it is giving you, because what I’ve personally found is in the moments that I felt the lowest in terms of my confidence, um, it’s kind of given me the best lessons that I needed to, I needed to learn.
Monica Packer: Oh, okay. I really liked hearing that.
Dina Scippa: Particularly though, and I don’t know if this resonates with you. I will speak personally, and I know this speaks for the women I work with that I think in those low moments, And you can move through it, you can push past the discomfort that more than confidence. I think you’re building that sense of self trust that you can move through those moments of and adversity and come out on the other side.
You know, when I started coaching a couple of years ago, I thought that I, my goal and my focus was to help women achieve a goal. And that I was only a good coach if I was able to get them to that milestone. And the more I worked with women and the more I worked on this issue with myself, I realized the goal is just the cherry on top.
Great. But who you’re becoming in the process and what you’re learning about yourself is just so much better. And that’s the stuff that lasts.
Monica Packer: Okay.
Well, this is actually, you know, I weirdly, I’m going to ask you to define competence
Dina Scippa: Okay.
Monica Packer: because I think that may be part of the
problem is we just think it’s this static, arrival. inside of us that we don’t question things about ourselves, that we only see ourselves in a good light, that we just can strut in a room and be ourselves. So this may be so weird, but what is confidence? I think I may have it wrong. Yeah.
Dina Scippa: feel. That my definition of confidence might run counter to what others may think it is. I think that, well, first of all, let me tell you where I got most fascinated by confidence in the first place. So I came across a statistic that says that a girl’s confidence peaks at age nine. And that’s what brought me through.
Like sort of an obsessive rabbit hole of like, why is this happening? Why are women before the white girls, before they reach double digits just falling off this cliff where they’re questioning their worth, their insecurities are heightened. They’re searching for validation and acceptance everywhere.
They can look, um, there can be patterns of people pleasing and, Constant striving for perfectionism and approval. And it creates just this vicious cycle. This. Chasm, if you will, that we’re always trying to fill and why it inspired me so much, you know, I was fascinated by why is this such a block amongst so many of us?
And it started with me because I know that I struggled with my confidence at a very young age. And just in terms of the way I saw myself, the way that I, um, felt. Around people in certain rooms. It had a lot to do with the way my body was the way I, you know, compared myself to others. And just in terms of everything, academic ability, athletic ability, it was just like the comparison trap was crazy high.
So I had this theory as I started to unpack this trend, this idea, I said, this is really something here. Because if the confidence. Cliff that we’re falling over is happening in our adolescent years. What’s happening to us as we transition into our twenties, our thirties, our forties, and what I often talk about is that there’s this inner teenage girl that’s still struggling to feel like herself, to feel like this fully expressed, authentic version of who she is and how she shows up in the world.
And what I find is that our confidence is oftentimes. In direct proportion to what others think. Think or what we think others are thinking. And
I think that confidence is really, there’s not a one size fits all definition. I think it’s how you define confidence. Cause one of the things that is so remarkable to me is that one woman’s confidence of feeling like she can be her like most incredible unapologetic self.
And she’s. And where’s the craziest clothes? And she, is out there and loud and fierce. And then there’s another woman who’s introverted and doesn’t really want a ton of attention, but she’s just as confident. I think there’s this misperception around confidence can only look one way, but I think the quiet confidence is just as powerful as the, uh, Outward unapologetically fierce confidence that’s strutting down a beach
Monica Packer: well, I like that you painted that
difference because you’re right. You know, when I think of someone confident, I do think of the person who is the spotlight on most of the room and that’s not going to fit a lot of our own preferences or personalities. So from what I’m pulling from you and I love that you’re like, yeah, it’s the, the definition is going to be different for each of us. And the definition is going to based. Be based in what does it feel like when I’m myself and when I’m owning who that self is. Like I’m owning that I can be quieter or I like to be creative or I like to be loud. Like whatever it is, we’re owning it. And it’s separate from how we perceive other people seeing us.
Is that right? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think there’s such freedom when we reach a point where we give ourselves permission to show up as we truly feel is in alignment with who we are. I think for so long, there’s so much that we give priority to about, this is how I should show up. This is how others expect me to be in these rooms.
Dina Scippa: And there’s sort of this weird shape shifting thing that happens of, you know, early on in, you know, in my career, I remember thinking I had to show up in a certain way and project this level of confidence to be taken seriously, but if I was being honest, that didn’t really feel like me. And so I think it’s, it can take some time to reach a point where you feel authentically connected with the truth of who you are and how you express yourself.
And I think sometimes people don’t give themselves the grace to get there. They just want to figure it out and be done with it. And there’s so much, like I said, in that, in that becoming that you’re learning more about yourself, you’re learning what you like and what you don’t like and what you want and what you don’t want.
And, um, I would just say that. In defining your unique type of confidence, it has everything to do with getting clear about the things that you do want that matter most to you, not just because you’ve been told that they’re supposed to matter to you. And that’s one of the biggest things that I hear from women when they come to me with their struggles with confidence.
And honestly, they’re a little embarrassed to say it, but Some of them don’t even know what they want. They’ve been so used to being this version of themselves that everyone expects them to do in the roles of, you know, wife or partner or mom or ex job, um, daughter, cousin, sister, all these things. And what I noticed, and I had this experience myself is it becomes almost as natural as breathing to abandon yourself
Monica Packer: Oh,
yeah.
Dina Scippa: just.
Like it’s so much easier to be what this person wants or say you’d like something because this person likes it. You just want to go with the flow and keep the peace. Sure. But years and years and years of that happening creates one thing. And that’s resentment.
Monica Packer: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I think we all know what that feels like.
Dina Scippa: All too well,
Monica Packer: not. Yeah, it does not feel good. Does not feel good. Okay, so I’m kind of looking at confidence is, as you said, it’s a process. It’s not an arrival. It’s a process. And it’s almost like On this ongoing process of building this proverbial house, you know, a house of confidence, and it’s built on a foundation, though, so like the house can change over time.
Like, maybe you decide, I want this to look different. I want this to feel different. Or right now, it’s a small house. Or right now, it’s a really big house, depending on where you are in your confidence. But the foundation is what Having a sense of who you are, knowing what you want, trusting in yourself, living authentically. Is there anything else that you would add to that foundation that women should be focused on making sure they’re building first?
Dina Scippa: I think wrapped up in that. And it sort of speaks to a lot of the points that you just touched on. I think it’s about leaning into the idea that your voice and your opinions matter because oftentimes, and I know I’ve, I’m included in this as well, is that there’s this story. Normally narrated by our inner critic that every time we have a thought, be it one that we want to share in a boardroom or at home or on social media.
And we have this nagging inner critic saying, don’t do that. Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? And those micro moments that chip away at the confidence. Even if it’s a micro ounce of the confidence that you have to share something, you’re entering into a stage of self censorship because you’re afraid of how it’s going to be perceived.
And so I would say at the foundation, of all of this with confidence, you know, all of the ingredients, so to speak, that you’ve just shared are super important for the foundation. But I think also being able to get comfortable with your voice. Know that what you have to share matters, um, and to not be afraid to share what’s on your heart for fear of any type of reprisal or perceived reprisal.
Right.
Monica Packer: Hmm. That’s really resonating with me. If confidence peaks at nine for a lot of women, which is so sad,
Dina Scippa: devastating.
Monica Packer: Yeah, it really is. That’s devastating to think about. We want to obviously move past that. So I want to look at this more like if we’re going as a journey, it’s like a series of peaks.
We’re going to have our peaks. We’re going to have our valleys with confidence. So what can someone know ahead, but also in the moment? Contributes to the valleys. Like what, what leads to those low moments so that they can just be more aware of them instead of just staying there,
like to just be able to say, this is what’s going on instead of being like, well, I’m the worst and I’m just going to stay here.
Dina Scippa: It’s a great question. And that very question is probably the most important question that someone needs to ask themselves is how do we normalize the Valleys because we’re not just gonna coast up here all the time. When you think about the first cliff that we fall over in terms of our confidence, what I’ve read in the research is that between the ages of 10 to 13, a girl’s confidence drops by about 30%, and then between 13 to 17 it drops around another 40 to 50%, which is just one of the most depressing statistics.
And what’s contributing to those? Those dips in confidence is a girl is at, in those critical teenage years, looking for that sense of belonging, she’s looking for confirmation that she’s similar to everyone else, that she can be accepted in who she is, um, that the things that she likes are shared by others, um, we’re, we’re hardwired for connection.
And so. T those teenage years can be particularly jarring if we’re thinking about where those, those foundational elements of confidence are built. But there’s a very real reason as to why it’s happening. Your brain is developing in a certain
way at that critical developmental stage where the, the sense of your development is looking for that confirmation, but the valleys of like those dips in confidence, as you As you progress in your life, for whatever reason that they’re attributed to, I think what’s important to remember is going through certain emotional dips.
Is normal. I’ve worked a lot in the gender equality and female empowerment space on a global level. I think what I find the most interesting globally, this is a global phenomenon, is that women aren’t oftentimes given the space.
To unravel, to fall apart, to not have it all together, uh, to not be pleasing to those around them, it’s inconvenient. And I think what’s worse is that so many people, be it a partner or family members or community, because of the discomfort of this low moment, whatever’s happening, many. Times people will feel this compulsion to try to rescue women from those feelings.
Oh, come on. It’s not that bad. Some people have it so much worse. Come on, pick yourself up. It’s come on. You, you know, you can think about things in a better way and the forced positivity and the forced pushing through, I think creates a narrative that. I shouldn’t be feeling this way. There’s so many things, so many reasons why I shouldn’t.
And so it’s almost like we’re gaslighting ourselves around these very real emotions, which I mean, as you and I are talking just sounds ridiculous, but I’m, I’m going to venture a guess that maybe you’ve done it. I know I’ve done it. So I think if we, we can’t control for other people and we can’t control for society or planet earth, but what we can do is give ourselves a little bit more grace to acknowledge that when we’re feeling certain things to not immediately say this is wrong, or I’m afraid of what other people will think for what I’m feeling, like giving yourself that space to say, I’m not feeling my best.
I’m not going through a confident season right now, and that’s okay. Recognizing that I have to go through this and feel it in order to get to the other side and recognizing that perhaps there’s something to be learned because I know I can speak from personal experience. The obsession with trying to get to the other side or maybe around it to get to the other side has everything to do with, uh, this, this palpable fear of how much longer do I have to sit through this.
I don’t want to feel this way. And I get it. We’re in a culture that you can order something on Amazon and have it, have it to you in the afternoon if you order in the morning. So we’re patient as a society right now. And it’s uncomfortable to sit through the uncertainty of that discomfort. I think we’re, we’re so hardwired to want to know when can this end?
So I know this part will be over.
Monica Packer: Mm hmm.
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Monica Packer: So, I want to give them more advice, too, about what to do in these low
moments. I really love that you’re starting with this. Sit with it,
like it’s okay, expect it, sit with it, allow it to move through you.
Um, I would love a couple more tips from
you on what that can look like, but also can we paint it with one of the contributors to these low moments, which, you know, you’ve already mentioned the inner critic flaring up, that comparison voice, self censorship, um, maybe losing your voice, not feeling like your belong very much. The thing you brought up earlier that I can’t stop thinking about is how our circumstances have a big play in those feelings and those things happening. So let’s, let’s hear more from you about how, what, how to move through these low moments. Um, but can you paint that for us? With your own circumstance, like, you know, as a coach who , helps a lot of women with confidence. I’m betting you, even you have the, the valleys have the low moment.
Dina Scippa: All the time.
Monica Packer: us how a circumstance led to a low, a valley, a low,
moment and what you’ve actually done to move through it?
Dina Scippa: Absolutely. So, I’ll use an example of, uh, Going through relationships, which is something I’m sure a lot of us can relate to and going through a particular low moment of when a relationship is not going well, is causing you a ton of anxiety. It’s causing you a tremendous amount of self doubt and Maybe let’s paint a picture of someone who is unfortunately getting wrapped up in perhaps someone else’s drama, and they’re finding themselves obsessively trying to like rescue and fix and people, please, those details for someone in a relationship that let’s be honest, is probably not the best situation for them is not going to help their confidence.
And so painting the picture of someone being in a relationship that just is not serving them and their confidence is just taking hit after hit after hit. The advice that I would give to someone like that is. When was the last time you really got still with yourself? When was the last time that you actually took some time to intentionally reflect?
Now does that look like maybe taking a trip or getting away? I’m not always advocating for run away from it all, but maybe that’s something that would work for you. Or allowing yourself to confidently communicate a boundary where, where that dynamic isn’t helping your confidence and you need to create some distance between that person.
Because I think one of the hardest things in terms of like circumstances that will, that will have an impact on your confidence is that you get so caught up in the doing of that circumstance and trying to fix the situation that you become so other focused that in the process you will lose. You are, you lose that sense of connection to who you are.
And so what I oftentimes will tell women who may be in circumstances that sound like this to really make sure that they’re connecting with the truth of who they are and the truth of what’s really happening. If you were in a situation, say in a relationship dynamic that I just explained, you might find yourself Feeling like you need to do more to make the situation get better and know you actually have to turn inward the complete opposite direction, not focused on the other person, whether it be journaling, whether it be taking some time to meditate or anything that’s going to help you get grounded and and rooted in who you are.
It is just. It is always baffling to me that the very thing that we all have access to do, no matter where we are in the world. It’s free. We can just
learn to ourselves. Just it’s not fun
Monica Packer: talking to a one liner, a journal a day where I’m like, that’s good enough. I don’t want to relive it,
but yes, yes.
Dina Scippa: I mean, there’s another, there’s, there’s a ton of other options and approaches to do it. Maybe you’re a voice note person. Maybe you want to just write it in your cell phone, um, in the notes app. Um, just finding ways. To document where you are without judgment, without shame. Like I can acknowledge that I’m in this space right now.
And I don’t think that this is the best version of myself. And here are the reasons why. And I’m going to give myself grace to feel this right now and acknowledge that this isn’t where I want to be. Say six months from now or a year from now, I know that if I take really honest inventory of the things that are causing me distress and upset and anxiety, and really are just like making that hit to my confidence that I know that there’s probably one small step that I can take to make this situation better.
A little easier, a little better. What can I do? And it really, to make it, to break this down, to be as simple as possible, because you know, we all love simple and it’s too complex. We’re not going to do it. So I’m not advocating, okay, everyone’s got to write, write in a journal and make sure you’re writing every day.
Ask yourself one fundamental question that I think women don’t ask themselves enough, what do I need right now? would feel so incredibly nurturing and soothing that would just be for me?
Monica Packer: Yeah.
Dina Scippa: And I think the more that we ask ourselves that, honestly, if we’re asking our current adult self or teenage self or a little child version self, you get to, you get to realize that there is a real practice of being able to be more nurturing and caring.
To yourself without needing it to be so focused on other people. And, you know, the same question could be asked if you’re in a situation at work, that’s hitting your confidence. Um, if, if there are circumstances with people around you, I mean, it’s about getting that stillness away from the circumstances to, to get quiet enough to hear the answer.
Monica Packer: You know, as these things go, the
answer is both simple and complex, insecurity seems more like a, a loss of connection to yourself and to gain back the confidence it’s about. What can I do to reconnect? Whether it’s responding to my needs better, taking the time to be still, to process my emotions, to also validate my circumstances for what they are, because that seems really important too.
I wish there was an A to Z answer.
Dina Scippa: I wish there was too. I mean, a number of times I get asked by women, like, can you just give me like a couple of tips of how to just get more confident? That would be great. I said, if I had that, do you think I would be hoarding it? I would share it with the entire world.
I’m not the person who’s going to say confidence means this, because it means so many different things to different people.
And, you know, when we think of circumstances, you know, I think about the pandemic and how so much was out of our control and I, you know, I’m never someone who’s going to subscribe to toxic positivity and I never suggest it to my clients of like, come on. I don’t know. And then I think about those moments in the pandemic and just what we’re talking about today, about being able to be kind enough to yourself to meet you where you’re at.
And maybe there was some shifts for many of us around our waistline or our, you know, the way we looked or the way we felt or different things that went through. I would oftentimes find myself during those early, early days of the pandemic where we couldn’t really go anywhere. We were scared to, I was scared to even walk on the street at times, thinking like, what’s happening?
What, what, what is this really?
Monica Packer: just didn’t
Dina Scippa: Didn’t know. And it was so much uncertainty. It, there was never a moment like that in my life where I felt so firmly planted in the now and to be able to access gratitude. Like I was grateful to be able to walk outside. It was grateful to be able to take in these tiny joys.
And I would oftentimes say like, there was so much sadness and so much anxiety and so much panic that you had to, you had to work diligently with your mindset to, to make it work. Be appreciative of those things. So I would say this has been some, a practice that I’ve gone back to quite a bit is having some kind of daily ritual or connection to gratitude.
Monica Packer: Hmm.
Dina Scippa: is, you know, I, I launched my company in 2020, my coaching practice enough labs. And I thought this decade was going to be like a decade to change everything. Come to find out the universe and world had different plans.
Monica Packer: Mm
Dina Scippa: And as I thought about it and, and the more I worked with women and was having conversations around this, I named it enough labs because I was constantly hearing women say things like, I’m not smart enough. I’m not thin enough. I’m not pretty enough. I’m not disciplined enough. Whatever.
Qualifier before enough was going to come and I’ve become, it’s been almost five years now that I’ve been in doing this work that has felt like my life’s calling. And I mentioned this because when we’re committed to it, a story that says we’re not good enough or blank enough. We’re constantly viewing ourselves through a filter of lack, what we still have to work on.
So if you don’t like the shape of your body, you’re saying, I just, I’m not thin enough. And, or I’m not this enough, whatever your circumstances are that you’re chasing that space of lack. And what I oftentimes try to reframe to the women I work with is to say, but where are you? So much more than enough.
Where are things going? Really, really well. Can you acknowledge where perhaps there’s some milestone that you’re trying to reach at work, but where can you point to the evidence of where you are just naturally killing it? And I think sometimes we get so caught up and this is a very, this is very much connected to our brains, but we get so caught up in the lack and the things that we still have to do that we Forget about the evidence where we can point to that.
We’re doing a fantastic job and it’s, there’s a, there’s a space that I think a lot of women fall into of thinking, you know, they’re, they’re so attached to wanting to improve. And like I said, I can put myself in that category too. I think self development. At times has become like this endless chase.
It’s like, I am the forever
DIY project. No, I oftentimes will tell people you’re not broken. There’s nothing wrong with you or something that needs to be fixed. There’s things that you want to address and prove for the reasons that are important to you. And you don’t need to defend that to anyone, but let’s not miss the moment
to practice that gratitude and actually say like, there are areas that I can be really proud of still.
Monica Packer: Hmm. There’s so much compassion interwoven with everything you’ve taught us today. So I think that’s a beautiful thing for us to end on
and validating those moments where we recognize we are enough. We have enough anything where we are shifting from that place of lack to it’s enough. Um, so with this, I want to send people the right direction and then we’ll end with our final question.
Where do you want people to go who are interested in learning more from you?
Dina Scippa: Yeah. If you’re interested in learning more about enough labs, you can head to our website, which is www. enoughlabs. com. Um, you can also follow us on Instagram at enough labs where you can see all of the ways that we are having a fantastic conversation about celebrating our enoughness. And really my big piece is on learning perfectionism and people pleasing.
Monica Packer: You’re speaking to the right
Dina Scippa: I thought so.
Monica Packer: that’s what we’re about.
Okay. Let’s end with the final question and it’s, what is one small way women can take action on what they learned starting today?
Dina Scippa: I would say one small action that you can take from today’s conversation is to
make a list and have it be your top three before you hit the pillow tonight of three things that you are insanely proud of that you did just for today to connect with All of the things that you showed up for poured into maybe sidestep certain things for, and to really acknowledge yourself for the ways that things went really well, or that you were really well.
Monica Packer: Maybe you will shift me from being a one line journal or if I do this, because this seems better. This seems like a good thing for me. So I’m so grateful you would give us that tip.
Dina Scippa: I actually give this exercise to a lot of my clients and I tell them to keep like a Mason jar or a jar of some sort and have little pieces of paper next to your bed, whether it’s one a day or three a day, and just drop those in for as long as you want. And there you are building this evidence jar of all of these things that are working really well and how amazing would it be to look at that after three months, six months, nine months, a year to say, wow, I’ve had a really, a lot of really good moments because we forget.
Monica Packer: Yeah, I can see like each of those paper strips, like almost acting as fillers to the cracks in that foundation.
Right. They’re just that way to just say, no, this is who I am. And this is what is enough about me and what I’m doing. Wow. Dina, this has been so needed. I appreciate you, your time. Thanks for being
on the show.
Dina Scippa: Thank you so much for having me. This was amazing. Thank you.
Monica Packer: That was really fun.
Dina Scippa: Oh, so fun. I’m so glad.
hope this episode gave you the hug and kick. Kick in the pants you need to grow. I’ll now share the progress pointers from this episode. These are the notes I took. So you don’t have to, and those. At my newsletter, get them in a graphic form each week. You can sign up at about. progress.com/newsletter. Number one. When considering. During how you’re approaching. Oops.
Number one. Confidence isn’t static. It will come and go. Our confidence is in direct proportion to what we think others are thinking of. Us our quote, unquote confidence is in direct proportion. And to what we think others are thinking of us. In contrast, true confidence. Confidence is knowing yourself, trusting yourself and doing your best to show. Show up as yourself. Number two, this takes time and grace to get there. I spend time uncovering what you want and what matters to you and learn to. To get comfortable using your voice.
Number three. Dips and confidence are normal. They come with periods of increased cell comparison, censorship and. Criticism of living. Of losing your voice and also have external. External circumstances that are numberless to name. Number four. When you hit those depths, spend some time sitting in those hard emotions. But also in what is more than enough in your life and number five. Ask yourself, what do I need right now?
Answers can include to journal. To get some alone time and to spend time doing any activity that helps you feel. Grounded and reconnected to yourself. You’re do something challenge this. A week is to make a list of three things you are proud of today. I. So love this advice from Dina. And my entire conversation with her, we’ve linked to every. Everything Dina in the show notes. This show is listener. Listener supported. Supporters. Members of the. Supporters club get access to three levels of benefits, including more. More content with me and more time with me, whether online. Or in person. My favorite benefit is our private premium.
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