In this coaching call, I had the pleasure of talking with Sarah, a creative mom who struggles with consistency due to her ADHD and the challenges of everyday life. We delved into what consistency looks like for her and how she can create touchpoints in her day that help her feel capable and confident.
We identified practical steps she can take, starting with simple hygiene routines and establishing a capsule wardrobe to make getting ready easier. This conversation was all about helping Sarah find flexibility within her routines and redefining what it means to be consistent in her unique life circumstances.
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Monica Packer: Sarah, thank you so much for doing this coaching call.
Yeah, I’m excited to do it.
Can you start by giving us an introduction?
Sarah: Sure. So I am, you would say. I love all things artistic. And creating and designing and all the things, but it kind of, well, and I have ADHD and so I love creating, but it can be hard on a.
Regular daily basis because I tend to kind of fly by the seat of my pants and consistency has always been very very very hard for me. Like as a mom I’ve realized how important it is to be consistent and yet it’s like fighting for it every day. Got it. And so I would say I love the creative part of me.
Like that’s one of the things I love most, but when it comes to actually having to be responsible and like keep a timeline and keep structure with getting kids to school, picking them up, having meals ready on time, like. Just, yeah, even consistent habits of exercising or getting ready. I, it’s really, really, really hard.
Monica Packer: So is that what brought you here today? Is that what you’d like to dig into this consistency issue? Yeah. Yeah.
Sarah: I think it would be, and maybe I’ll just say, um, consistency in general. And then when big life changes are happening, because we’re actually going to be moving in the next month and that was, uh, Has come about very quickly.
And so it’s really easy for me to hyper focus on, Oh, let’s find all the furniture and like, let’s be planning this and creating that space. But then, Oh, my kids need, they need me now. They need to read a book or I need to like get groceries or, so I think consistency, but then also consistency when. The road is a little rockier or a little more unknown, if
Monica Packer: that makes sense.
It does. Yeah. I would like to know when I say the word consistent, like, what does that bring up for you? What do you think someone who is consistent looks like? What does consistency look like?
Sarah: Um, doing things on a regular basis, um, I would almost say reliable or like a rhythm like you, it’s a rhythm of living.
Um, almost like muscle memory where you, you get in this mode and you can just go instead of it being like, where it feels like this extreme effort, like where you just kind of, you’re, you get into this flow and this, um, momentum.
And you don’t have to like find it every day, like you just kind of get in the saddle and go.
Monica Packer: So ease, like someone who can do, be regular and reliable and have a good rhythm with ease.
Sarah: Yes, and I will say, Monica, so I started following you maybe a year ago, maybe a little longer, actually it’s been longer, but I love getting on your stories and Seeing like you do the shot of your legs, like while you’re biking and then seeing like your partially clean kitchen and seeing, and it’s just like, one, it’s so real, but two, I’m like, okay, if she can sit down on her bike every morning, like I could totally do that.
And I was actually for six weeks, but now I’m having a foot problem and so I’ve got to figure that out. But yeah, just to say like. I’ve really admired that. And that’s when I heard about this coaching call. I’m like, yes, I would love to talk to Monica because. It’s seeing you do it and making it a reality.
It’s really awesome.
Monica Packer: Well, you know, what’s so funny is there are touch points to my day that are consistent, but a lot of times they happen not at the same time of day or in the exact same order. And most of my life, like 80 to 90 percent is very flexible. Like it is kind of flying by the seat of our pants and this kid needs to be here and there and what time should I start dinner and we’re, Oh, I got to clean up that or that thing just happened that now I have to take care of it.
So I always hesitate to share those regular things because I don’t want it to be like, this is what consistency looks like. You’re doing the exact same thing at the exact same time every day in my whole life is like this.
Sarah: Well, I love to show the touch points,
Monica Packer: right?
Sarah: Yeah, I think that’s a really good way to put it.
Monica Packer: Okay. We’re going to come back to that. I’m interested, like, I love that your definition of consistency is, it seems that there is some built in flexibility there. Like it’s about being reliable, but not being perfect. It’s about being regular, but it doesn’t mean everything has to be exactly at the right time.
So I think you have a pretty realistic look on consistency. The only thing I’m wondering is if you have a realistic look about what kind of person is consistent. So can you paint the picture for that? What type of person is consistent?
Sarah: Um, maybe. Okay. Well, one thought is putting certain things as priority. For instance, exercising and showering and getting ready. Like I don’t love to do that, but Um, those are things I would like to make consistent. It’s like, it’s maybe like a consistent person is someone in part that shows up having, maybe it’s going to make me cry, having honored themselves.
Um, in a way that they feel like capable to take on the rest of their day. Like, I think I show up, I feel like I show up frazzled and like, um, where, you know, like today, like no one can see me other than you right now. But like, I haven’t showered, I haven’t done makeup. Like I’m just making it through, which I’m proud of myself.
Like I’m doing great things today, but I don’t feel confident showing up, um, because I haven’t. Taken time for myself to show up in a way where it’s like, Oh, I feel settled. I feel confident. I feel ready to go. Um, now I will say though, with that, I mean, I have seven kids. I’ve got two at home. One’s a three year old.
One is five months old. And I joke with my husband. I’m like, honey, I, I dress for the occasion. Like I’m getting spit up on I’m, I’m dealing with messes laundry. Like. Weeding the garden, um, running kids around. I don’t know. It’s like on the days, like the off days when I do get ready, I’m like, why? Why am I, yeah, why am I getting ready to show up to clean and sweat?
And so. Maybe that’s part of it too, is trying to reconcile those two realities or that vision with the reality. Yeah.
Monica Packer: So the reason I pushed you to describe how you imagine someone who is consistent is because I wanted to see if it matched up with a more realistic take on consistency. And I think it does in many ways.
Um, someone who’s good at prioritizing, someone who shows up to honor themselves, someone who’s capable and confident. This is good because you didn’t say someone who’s like super type A and very rigid and extremely disciplined and, you know, essentially perfect. So the only thing I’m wondering about then is do you disqualify yourself from even this way of seeing someone who’s consistent?
Like, do you think you as a mom who’s creative and who has ADHD. Can still be a consistent person.
Sarah: It feels like type three might be the wrong word, but it feels like this dream that can’t be achieved right now because, and you get it like with babies and everything where you’re like, so maybe like deep down, I don’t feel like it’s possible, but I really want it to be possible.
Monica Packer: I want to point out something with the person you described. I think the feelings are what matter the most, someone who feels capable and confident. So I want to tell you that even in this more survival season, even with neurodiversity flowing through your veins and very unpredictable schedules and you being this creative soul, you can still show up to your life.
In a way that is consistent for you, not someone else, consistent for you, that makes you feel capable and confident. We have to believe that otherwise there’s this weird thing we do with our brains. Like if we don’t believe something will work, we don’t really, um, and I don’t say that as like toxic positivity, like believe and then do it, like do it now, do it my way.
It’s more of like, let’s believe this so we can get into the process of what it looks like to figure out what consistency looks like for Sarah, for you during this season.
Sarah: No, I mean, that makes a lot of sense. This house that we are going to be buying needs a lot of updating. And I’m like, okay, creative mind, let’s go.
Like, I can figure this out, but if I don’t have a vision, then I can’t hit the ground running because where, what direction do I go? What do I do? So, having a, So I, yeah, it totally makes sense to have a vision. You’ve got to envision it to make it a reality. So,
Monica Packer: so before we dig into the practical side of this, can I just do a teeny bit of teaching?
And this, this may be a bit more of a refresher since you have followed me for a little bit, then you probably know my definition of consistency, which is doing your best most of the time over time. And that means two things. That means your target is more times than not. That’s what we’re aiming for more times than not.
You’re hitting it more times than not, so that could even be like four out of seven, then you are consistent. Okay. The other thing this means is your best is allowed to change. It’s allowed to change day to day, it’s allowed to change season to season, such as like a big life circumstance, like you needing to move or having a newborn still, or just having a low moment, maybe with your mental health or anything that that may entail.
So your best is allowed to change. So consistency. Is best made possible with flexibility in mind. So to create consistency for you, I want to figure out not all the things that you want to be consistent in, because I think that can come along for the ride. Like, I think we can get clear on what. Familial responsibilities, you really want to be more consistent in, even if it’s just starting with getting the kids to school on time or having dinner ready, you know, for a certain time.
But what I’m hearing is for you to feel capable and confident. We need consistent touch points for your day that are just about you honoring yourself. Yeah.
Sarah: How does that feel?
It sounds nice. I’m like, okay, that would take some, some work, right. To make it a possibility and a priority, but I like the sound of it. Well, how about we work on casting a bit of a vision here to see if this feels more like I want this and I can do this because we’re going to get a vision. We’re also going to figure out how to make it work for you.
Monica Packer: So when I say touch points, I’m talking about how can we create starting with one touch point in your day that helps you feel more grounded. And like you’re showing up for yourself so that you can be flexible enough to be reactive to your circumstances, meaning your people, your kids, your, your responsibilities there.
Okay. So you can feel more like yourself. You can feel more capable and competent.
Sarah: Okay. Honestly, uh, I mean, getting ready
Monica Packer: would be great. Okay. So getting ready. Tell me more. Let’s like kind of brainstorm a bit. What, what could be those things during the day that could help you feel capable and confident?
Like you’re honoring yourself, showing up for yourself?
Sarah: So like I said, getting ready, but then my next thought is of connecting with my kids and that’s not per se for me, but there’s the mom guilt. That nags on me. And so it feels heavy and like hard, you know? And so I’m like, that’s honestly my next thought is because I can get very hyper focused on the projects and the, the cleaning and whatever, but to make sure that I’m giving my kids the attention that they need.
Um, yeah. Anyway, I don’t know if that is what you’re looking for, but actually, so what I’m doing is I’m actually making two lists. Like some touch points for you, touch point for your family. And your responsibilities, um, because it sounds like connecting with your kids could add some of that you would feel like more confident in whatever you’re doing, even if a lot of what you’re doing is putting out fires.
Monica Packer: But if you’re taking those a moment to connect with your kids, then it will help you with everything else going on. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I also put down there, like, eventually it could be, like, dinner or school, drop off, pick up. This is all just part of, like, we’re kind of almost creating a blueprint of where you want to head eventually with things, okay?
Um, for yourself, you said getting ready. Is that really the thing that was just so forefront in your mind that, like, you know what, Monica, I just know that’s what I want to focus on and we can just do that?
Sarah: Sure.
Monica Packer: Let’s
Sarah: do it. Cause it’s been a struggle my whole life.
Monica Packer: Okay. So this is where I want you to get a picture of what getting ready would ideally look like for you.
But when I say ideally, notice I said for you. So when I say for you, I mean for this time, this season, postpartum about to move like big life stuff going on. So ideally what would getting ready look like in those circumstances? Yeah.
Sarah: It’s funny. It feels so vulnerable because the reality is I’m losing all a bunch of hair with the postpartum shed. Oh yes. And so I’m like, I can’t even, so I usually, if I like to wash my hair when I can like do it, like, and make it look nice, but I’m like, I feel like I can only pull it up.
And anyway, so you can see things that are getting in my way mentally. No, this is good. This is all helpful. So, yeah, um, I mean, probably showering more consistently, even if I can’t I don’t know in my mind showering is more of like getting all like put together to go somewhere like because you have a full picture.
Monica Packer: Okay, so this is good because as we’re getting clear on why like what’s the biggest obstacle to you showering like to getting ready is because you like I to me that like sounds like a church day like I get ready for church a lot different than I do in my day to day life. Yes. So if that, if that were the ideal.
For my day to day life, like it wouldn’t be practical, like it wouldn’t actually match my reality. Maybe it can match Sunday reality, but not my day to day reality. So for your day to day, like ideal, you do keep coming back to, I want to shower. Maybe I want my hair to be done. I don’t mean, you know, Washed blow dried and styled.
I just mean like, I’ve at least put a nice ponytail in. Right.
Sarah: Mm hmm.
Monica Packer: Okay, so hair done, I’m putting that in quotes to show what I mean. Yeah. Great. Um, what else? Or if anything, that could be it.
Sarah: Yeah, I mean, brushing teeth, deodorant, and like, a little makeup. And then, um, And then again, if I’m being honest, it’s the ever changing female body from pregnancy to postpartum to nursing to, so that can be hard too.
All these things are like, and I like fashion and it’s hard to be like, Oh, I can’t wear half of these things right now. Anyway. So yeah. Picking some things, being willing to say, okay, I may not be able to be as fashionable as I want. when I get ready, but maybe having like a clean outfit that looks put together.
Yeah.
Monica Packer: Okay. I’m going to come back to that obstacle because I think it’s valid and we do want to make sure we, we, we go with that. But so for your ideal, like most days, like a regular weekday, I want to shower, wear clean clothes, have the hygiene steps taken care of, have my hair done and a little makeup, right?
Okay. Yeah. That’s great. That’s great. Um, what about if you have pretty low energy or you were up a lot at night with the baby or there’s a lot to do that day with a move, what could be the smallest and simplest version of getting ready?
Sarah: Um, doing hygiene and putting on clean clothes.
Monica Packer: So when you say hygiene, that’s like brush teeth, deodorant, clean clothes.
I love that. Would that lend to you feeling more confident even the baseline version? What about more capable?
Sarah: Yeah. And maybe I can share something real quick. Um, so I’ve dealt with anxiety and depression and, uh, after starting therapy, I started seeing things differently. And, um, I remember switching the thought it used to be like, I’d see piles of laundry and be like, Oh my gosh, why can’t I keep up with this?
And then. And then the shift was, Oh, wow, I have laundry to do. That means I’ve been like getting ready and I’ve been like changing clothes and I’ve been doing things. Yes. So anyway, that’s the side note, but that’s an important shift, right? Yeah.
Monica Packer: And similarly, I want you to make that internal shift about what you think getting ready is for you.
It’s just about the, the basic form is hygiene and clean clothes. Anything else is a cherry on the top, whether you just swipe on a, like a tinted chapstick and you have a cute scrunchie in the hair or you’re wearing like your favorite shirt, you know, something like that, that would, that can all, that will help you feel capable and confident and having the space line version of it will help you have the flexibility you need with this habit
Sarah: to be consistent.
So Monica, one thought I just had as a creative, I think I’m realizing. In my mind, I have to be creative and getting your outfit. And so to say like, when you said put on your favorite shirt, I’m like, Oh yeah. Like that’s kind of novel to just have one shirt. That’s a go to instead of feeling like I have to reinvent the wheel every day.
And just being like, Oh, I could have baseline outfits and I don’t have to prove myself creatively. Like,
Monica Packer: yeah,
Sarah: anyway, that’s a big, that’s a big epiphany.
Monica Packer: Funnily enough, that’s actually what I was going to bring up next. To work with your obstacle of having clothes that fit you well. We also see the obstacle of you wanting them to match this creative side of you.
So you can go two ways with that. Like you can decide, you know, I want the outfit to fit well and feel good in my body even more than I want it to look and feel creative at this point. So maybe my accessories can be where I shine on that, like a fun pair of earrings or maybe a necklace. Would you see me wearing my creative, artistic necklace today that I just got out of festival, um, that makes me feel very artsy, even though I’m wearing a black shirt, okay.
Um, you can decide either way, like what’s going to fit you better. But what I wanted to suggest is perhaps having a capsule wardrobe of sorts to get you through this postpartum period and maybe beyond of, if you can even spend 30 minutes and you don’t have to go through your whole closet, you don’t have to go through the.
What do I donate? What do I sell? What do I throw away? What do I meant? You don’t need to do that. I just want you to just quickly go through and be like this. I always, I feel comfortable in this now. I feel cute in that. I like the way these pants fit and just have those in a certain spot of your closet, but those will be the things you wear.
Sarah: Hmm. Yeah.
Monica Packer: Whether they’re just about feeling good or they’re also about feeling creative or
Sarah: yeah, a good point. So tell me,
Monica Packer: does that feel practical or helpful or if not, you can tell me that too and we can work through it.
Sarah: No, it does. Definitely. I think that’s great. And I love that you can even include something creative in the capsule, right?
It doesn’t just have to be bland. It can be okay. I had some extra time today to think through something creative and I’ll put it in my capsule wardrobe so it’s ready to go and I don’t have to figure it out on the go, I guess.
Monica Packer: So this may be my little homework assignment for you tonight is to spend 30 minutes like I’m going to even cap you like 30 minutes tops, just maybe that this could even be done in 10 minutes just pick out the pieces that feel and look good to you right now and put them in a place that’s easier to reach and that’s just your section for now came.
Yeah, you could do that with your accessories to if you want, but. Maybe you decide one or the other that will help you feel the, I want you to still feel creative. Like, I still want you to lean into that side of yourself. I think it will help you feel ready, but I also think it will help you feel the other feelings that you’ve pinpointed matter to you.
Sarah: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I see the
Monica Packer: shift already. Like, You know, you’re smiling. This is great. Okay. So you let me know how that little homework piece goes. Now that we know what the habit’s going to look like, okay. I’m a day to day. So we’re not thinking like getting nicely ready, like for a bigger event or church or whatever.
We’re thinking you day to day shower. Hopefully that’s something that could take like 20 minutes total, but your baseline version could take less like five minutes, right. Just to do a quick hygiene, wear clean clothes. Okay. Okay. I want to make sure this is strategic enough because I, while I don’t have ADHD, I have several children that do.
So I’m, and they’re all different. I have every type of ADHD in our family so far, but I know one thing that does help is having, just like we said, touch points, right? One of the reasons why we have touchpoint as a routines with our family is for our A DHD kiddos. So they know, like they have that predictability of every morning I make my bed, get dressed, come up, empty the dishwasher, then make my lunch.
Like they know that order for them. Right? That’s a touchpoint. And then after that it’s open. Or most of what we do as a family’s open. So I’m not saying we need to go through all of that for you, but I want to have that some predictability.
Sarah: Mm-hmm .
Monica Packer: So that way you’re not wondering when do I get ready? Yes.
Okay. And it can still be flexible because a lot of your life is still going to be flexible right now. So I want us to pinpoint a when here. Okay, so we can attach this new then, like, so when this happens, then I’ll get ready. Okay, so what could that be?
Sarah: So, well, thankfully, I would say just maybe a month ago.
So I pump exclusively because my baby Anyway, he was in the nursery Yeah, he was in the nursery for like a day and a half with you know, tubes and machines and stuff anyway, and then he just didn’t want a nurse and so I pump exclusively and I finally found this rhythm and Like a month ago where if I go to bed, I know it sounds crazy, but if I can try to pump for the last time by 11 or midnight.
And then my husband takes the night duty, or whenever, like, if he wakes up in the night, and then if I get up at 6 and pump, then at 6. 30 my middle schoolers start waking up, and like, and I feel energized enough that, okay, I can take the morning shift while my husband sleeps a little longer, and, anyway, so, If I, and now it, I’m not on a perfect schedule with pumping because life happens and so I’ll be like, Oh my gosh, like I’ll have my alarm going off, but I’m still making dinner or, you know, whatever.
But, um, if I could try to shoot for like finishing pumping like a half hour earlier, then maybe I could get up a half hour earlier. Am I making sense?
Monica Packer: Yeah. You could do that. And I think that’s something we can work towards. Like, that’s kind of the bigger ideal of shifting your wake up time, which honestly, I think would shift your bedtime.
So be kind of a give a mouse a cookie thing. So I think keep that on the horizon. Okay, but let’s work with where you are now. So would it work for you to do this baseline version after you pump for the first time in the morning?
Sarah: Baseline, yes. The full shower and getting ready, you know, 20 to 30 minutes. I don’t know.
And honestly, my husband is super supportive. It would probably just be a matter of brainstorming and like, okay, if you do this, then I do this. And, you know, we need to just kind of shift some things so that he feels like he can. Have his priorities in place as well. Yeah.
Monica Packer: And we want him to. So I love that, that, that thing you’ve worked together, you know, we want him to prioritize his rest too.
Um, So this is where I feel like let’s, let’s find a starting place and a starting place here seems to be for this season is when I’m done doing my first pump of the day, then I’ll do my hygiene and get on clean clothes. And if, again, if there’s any extra time, even a few minutes, maybe that is, you know, hairbrush your hair or it’s putting on a cute pair of earrings or the lip balm.
Like it could be any of those things and it’s still feel good.
Sarah: Yeah.
Monica Packer: Okay. But this is, this is where we’re starting. It’s not where we’re going to always be right
Sarah: now. And one thought with that is showering at night might be more realistic at this point. Yeah. For some reason in the morning feels like that’s what it should be, but it’s like, well, actually things are a lot more open.
I mean, With all the kids, it’s not, but it’s like nine or 10, but still like, okay. Anyway, just so we can do a two parter
Monica Packer: almost like we can have two baselines going on, like my last pump of the day, I’ll shower, maybe you can say before or after you get to the side, but in the morning you’re, you’re getting ready is kind of the funner part, like hygiene, you know, still putting on deodorant, brushing your teeth, and then you have a little bit more time to like jazz it up a bit or add on a little bit more.
Sarah: Yeah. Without
Monica Packer: having to change the whole family schedule necessarily, yet. Right. Which can come. It can come. Mm hmm. Yeah. So how does that feel? We’re, we’re, we’re doing two little baselines, right? That are all about getting ready. Shower at night, quick getting ready in the morning.
Sarah: Yeah. I think that’s great.
And I like that it’s attached to something I’m already doing. Yeah. Cause then it kind of triggers like, Oh, I’m doing this. So now I’m going to do this. Now is this where you talk about, and this might not even be, I know you say sticky habits, but maybe that’s not even what a sticky habit is.
Monica Packer: Yeah. That’s a sticky habit. A sticky habit follows the sticky habit formula, the when then pairing. But we usually have, we have a when, then and after. And what happens after is when, when you do this, make sure you notice, make sure you give yourself a pat on the back, whether that’s proverbial or literal, like, you know, take a moment to notice it, to really affirm it in you, because this is just brain hacking.
You don’t have to affirm forever. But initially for this, I want you to really make sure you’re like, I did it like good job. Give yourself a pat. So that’s the, the WTA, when, then, after. Um, so with this, obviously I like want to dig into all the other things cause that’s just who I am.
I like to be in your business and, um, but I’m going to stop there for myself and say, let’s start with this. Have your greater vision in mind, but remember, honestly, the biggest part of your vision is feeling capable and confident. That is your guide. It’s not the shoulds or prescriptions of what other people are being consistent in or how they’re being consistent in it.
It’s about what will help you feel those things.
And to
Monica Packer: help you do that, to have touch points that add that into your day, that can be those consistent touch points. So the rest of your life can be flexible, you know, more reactive in nature, but even those WTAs, like we just shared, have some flexibility with them.
They’re not all or nothing. Yeah. Yeah. So what I want you to do is start there, but I also want you to be in the space of thinking of what other touch points would be helpful for me and my family. That I want to gradually focus on whether that’s movement for you or quiet or creative time, like designated time to spend on your projects for your family.
The other things we shared about connecting with your children. Okay. And having baseline versions of connecting. I just did a whole coaching call on that. That’s going to appear on the, on the podcast, but we decided to hug a hug and a kiss is connecting with your kids. You know, that was her baseline way of doing that night.
So, um, or dinner or, you know, school drop off, pick up those things. So let’s have that open mind, what those touch points can be. And work towards those.
Sarah: I just have to say one thing on the hug thing. My kids have a after school chore list. And one of the things I have on there is give mom a giant hug. Yeah.
And so, and I love it though, because they want it, they want to check it off, but then it also is this built in like connecting point. Anyway. See, that’s a touch point right
Monica Packer: there. That’s a touch point. Yeah. A connection. So maybe it’s about adding one more simple touch point like that, that adds connection.
Okay. So that way in the days where you are unpacking and pumping and doing all the things you can say, I got a hug in the afternoon and I gave them a good night at the end of the night and individual eyes to eyes. Good night. I love you. Like that’s a touch point. And of course, ideally we want things more like we have a full conversation or I get to trade off in kids and rubbing their back and whatever it may be.
But those baselines, they make the more times than not possible. Yeah. I love that. So what do you want to make sure you remember from this call? This is not a test. So it’s not. What did I say?
Sarah: Exit quiz. Yeah, it’s
Monica Packer: not a quiz. What do you really want to make sure you remember?
Sarah: Um, I liked that you, you drilled down to feeling capable and confident and Um, the sticky habit of at night when I can, um, showering and then in the morning, the sticky habit of after, or anyway, with pumping, like some time, I guess, after that, um, doing basic hygiene and getting clean clothes on and, and then, yeah, that there Then they’re like, it’s like a grab bag of possibilities of, Oh, I have a few more minutes.
I can put on a little makeup or pick out some earrings or, and then I really loved the ideal of a capsule wardrobe and that there could be thought out creativity ahead of time. So it’s not adding to stress. Yeah. I like that. Even just like, okay, Sunday I can wear this. And if I, for date night, I got this, like, instead of leaving it to the last minute and then it feels stressful and I don’t know what to wear and I don’t know what’s fitting.
But, um, so there can be creativity, but then also making sure there’s kind of like baseline of like, okay, this is comfortable. It fits me and I can grab that and go. And and I liked how you said maybe eventually shifting schedules, but like for now dealing with or working with like, well, what’s my current schedule and how can I make a sticky habit that will be easier than trying to change a bunch of things?
Yes, as we’re starting. So I think there’s more some of the base.
Monica Packer: Well, you just passed the quiz. That was not a quiz. I mean, that was a lot. I mean, I think the biggest thing I hope you can take is that these shifts and how, um, you can form a habit that is supportive and a touch point for you can be applied to other things that are going to come with time.
Yes. They give you that path forward and ultimately that goal of feeling capable and confident. That is what a consistent person is and that can be you.
Sarah: Yeah. I love that.
Monica Packer: Thank you so much for your time today and let me know how it goes. Okay.
Sarah: Yes. I really appreciate it, Monica. I’m, I’m, I’m a big principal person because they are flexible and you, and they’re, You can change with principles.
And so I love what you’ve helped me to establish today. That’s really powerful. Well
Monica Packer: done. Well done. That was you.
You can hear my six year old come. Let me, let me hurry and tell him to, um, get occupied.
So elsewhere, I’ll be right back. Okay. Thanks, Brad. I’m almost done. Brad stepped in for a minute. Awesome.
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